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Comment on With Many Other Words by Keith Brenton

Keith Brenton — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:47:03 +0000

Well, it’s not like it was February 19, 2010!

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Jeff Richardson

Jeff Richardson — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:12:12 +0000

We don’t have to assume anything, we go by what has been stated, in the new testament.

Comment on With Many Other Words by laymond

laymond — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:55:08 +0000

Keith, I am glad to see you did read my comment -February 19, 2012 at 1:02 pm | #6- even though you didn’t feel it necessary to comment back.

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Keith Brenton

Keith Brenton — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:25:35 +0000

I’m not justifying anything. To justify something implies that it’s wrong and must be made right.

I’m just pointing out that nothing in scripture indicates a change lof mind on God’s part regarding worship with instruments, divorce-marriage-divorce-remarriage or bestiality. Probably true for a hundred or so other things. Why do we assume a change for some but not others?

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Jeff Richardson

Jeff Richardson — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:17:30 +0000

But you are trying to use the old law to justify instruments of music for new covenant worship, aren’t you kb?

Comment on Just Tell The Story by Keith Brenton

Keith Brenton — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:13:04 +0000

Laymond, if I understand the intent of your question, it is a “Have you stopped beating your wife?”-type question.

If I answer “I am just one who tells the story,” you are free to say, “Then quit telling us how to tell it and what to tell.”

If I answer “I am equipped to tell the rest of you HOW to tell the story and the version of the story you should prefer,” you are free to say, “And where do you get the authority to do that?”

There is no correct answer to your question as phrased. Clever conundrum, though. I salute you. It was fun sorting it out.

I’ll say this: Everyone tells the Story — any story — the way they see it, read it, experience it — with their own words, nuances and point-of-view.

What I’m doing with this blog is telling folks the way I see it, read it, experience it — with my own words, nuances and point-of-view.

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Keith Brenton

Keith Brenton — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:50:03 +0000

Of course not all 613 precepts are part of the new covenant. Does that mean they no longer have any value in communicating what God desires for us?

Just because bestiality isn’t mentioned specifically in the New Testament doesn’t mean God has changed His mind about it and it’s okay now and isn’t covered by the word porneia, for instance.

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Jeff Richardson

Jeff Richardson — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:27:03 +0000

kb, in 2 Chronicles 29:25, are you saying “He” God placed those things there by the commandment of David? In your third paragraph you say, ” But not all were specifically repealed.” I would agree in part, nine of the ten are restated in the New Testament. Are we to keep the Sabbath? In your fourth paragraph you say, some 613 get no mention at all, this calls for discernment. I wonder why they are not? Could it be that they have no part of the New Covenant? We have the New Covenant in written form, therefore we can discern as to what we are to do.

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Keith Brenton

Keith Brenton — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:10:31 +0000

You didn’t really read this post, did you, brother Jeff? I don’t know where you got the idea that I am calling for a return to the law. Of all people, I thought you would appreciate the fact that I recognize that the New Testament and Jesus’ teachings do contain God’s instructions.

And by the way, the full text of 2 Chronicles reads: “He stationed the Levites in the temple of the LORD with cymbals, harps and lyres in the way prescribed by David and Gad the king’s seer and Nathan the prophet; this was commanded by the LORD through his prophets.” – NIV
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“And he set the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, with psalteries, and with harps, according to the commandment of David, and of Gad the king’s seer, and Nathan the prophet: for so was the commandment of the LORD by his prophets.” – KJV

We don’t get to leave out the parts that are inconvenient to what we want to believe.

Amos 5:23 doesn’t call the people to repent of worship with instruments, but of idol worship and injustice; until they repented of that, God would not hear their worship of Him, with or without instruments. Amos 6 condemns their sloth, instead of working to relieve suffering of their brothers. It’s not the instruments but the indolence that’s condemned.

Comment on Three Ways We Shortchange Law and Grace by Jeff Richardson

Jeff Richardson — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:06:19 +0000

2 Chronicles 29:25, “And he (King Hezekiah stationed the Levites in the house of the Lord with cymbals, with stringed instruments, and with harps. ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENTS OF DAVID…26, The Levites stood with instruments of David. 27, King Hezekiah commanded instruments of David.” Amos 5 is a call to repentance, 23, “Take away from Me the noise of your songs, for I will not hear the melody of your stringed instruments.” Amos 6:5 ‘Who sing idly to the sound of stringed instruments and INVENT for yourselves musical instruments like David.” Gal 5:1-4 ” Standfast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with the yoke of bondage (ie the old law) Indeed I, Paul say to you that if you become circumcised (ie to be like the Jews)Christ will profit you nothing, And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised (ie, to be like the Jews) that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ you who attempt to be justified by Law,(ie the old law) you have fallen from grace.” If we are going to go to the old law, which by the way was given only to the children of Israel and was never intended for the Gentile, you kb have become a debtor to keep the whole law. So you had better brush up on what did you say, the other 613 precepts. And you have fallen from grace.