The Story of Job

or, Why Bad Things Happen to Good People

A Skit in Two Acts (of Satan, and One Act of God)

Narrator: Of all the people of the East
no one like Job was found.
He owned eleven thousand beasts,
and sacrificed year ’round.
.
For his children, ten in number,
he gave offerings each morn
fearing that while he slumbered
they might have done some wrong.
.
One day when angels faced the Lord,
the one called Satan thought
that he should also have his word
and stood with all the lot.
.
The Lord: “Where have you come from?”
Narrator: asked the Lord,
and Satan said with pride,
Satan: “From roaming up and down the world
and going far and wide.”
.
Narrator: Then the Lord replied to Satan,
The Lord: “Consider Job, then, if you would.
There is none on earth so patient;
none so upright; none so good.”
.
Satan: “Does Job fear God for nothing?”
Narrator: said Satan,
Satan: “You’ve shown him only grace!
Take what you gave — take everything —
He’ll curse You to Your face!”
.
The Lord: “All right,”
Narrator: the Lord said,
The Lord: “Take his wealth,
his family, flocks and herds.
But do not touch the man himself,
and you will eat your words.”
.
Narrator: Then Satan left the Lord’s presence
and scurried to his task,
for there’s nothing more that he resents
than getting what he’s asked.
.
One day Job’s mesenger arrived,
and sadly said to him,
Messenger 1: “Of your servants, only I survived,
the rest: killed by Sabeans!”
.
Narrator: While he yet spoke, another came
and said,
Messenger 2: “The fire of God
burned all your sheep and slaves
and I alone there stood!”
.
Narrator: And still another, rushing up to him,
said
Messenger 3: “By Chaldeans we were surprised:
they stole your camels, killed your men,
and only I have survived!”
.
Narrator: The last one bore the worst of news:
Messenger 4: “Your children were all feasting at home;
it fell on them when the wind blew
and I’ve escaped alone!”
.
Narrator: At hearing this, the man called Job
could take no greater pain;
he shaved his head and tore his robe,
and called on his Lord’s name:
.
Job: I owned no thing when I was born,
nor when I die and am raised.
God gives and takes as He has sworn,
May the name of the Lord be praised.”
.
Narrator: Another day the angels came
to stand before the Lord
and Satan also called His name
to accuse the one God adored.
.
The Lord: “Where have you come from?”
Narrator: asked the Lord,
and Satan said with pride,
Satan: “From roaming up and down the world
and going far and wide.”
.
Narrator Then the Lord replied to Satan,
The Lord: “Consider Job, then, if you would.
Though your hand I put his fate in,
he still calls me only good.”
.
Satan: “Skin for skin!”
Narrator: then Satan answered,
Satan: “No man wants his health to waste —
Make his bones and flesh all cancered,
and he’ll curse You to Your face!”
.
The Lord: “All right,”
Narrator the Lord said,
The Lord: “Take his health;
afflict this man so strong.
But leave the man his life itself,
and you will see you’re wrong.”
.
Narrator: Then Satan left the holy throne
and hurried to his work,
for he likes nothing more, it’s known,
than making people hurt.
.
So from his head down to his heel,
with sores poor Job was scarred
and when they grew and failed to heal,
he scraped them with a shard.
.
Then Job’s wife said,
Job’s Wife: “Do you still claim
your innocence now? And why?
Curse God who’s cursed you! Curse His Name!
Perhaps He’ll let you die.”
.
Narrator: Job said,
Job: “Only foolish women
would speak that way — not you!
Shall we accept the good God’s given,
without some trouble, too?”
.
Narrator: In all this, Job refused to sin,
or blame evil on his Lord.
Then three friends came to visit him,
and for a week, said not one word.
.
At last, Job spoke, his voice forlorn,
and cursed the day of his birth:
Job: “I hate the day that I was born!
May it perish from the earth!”
.
Narrator: His friend Eliphaz, next to him,
sat in the ashen dust,
and said,
Eliphaz: “Does God punish good men?
Don’t you think God is just?”
.
Narrator: Bildad the Shuhite then agreed,
Bildad: “You surely must have sinned.
You think forgiveness you don’t need?
Your words are blustering wind!”
.
Narrator: And Zophar added his advice,
Zophar: “Devote your life to Him,
sweep from your tent your secret vice,
and He’ll forget your sin.”
.
Narrator: So Job argued with his befriended,
and proved he’d done no wrong.
About the time his words had ended,
Elihu came along.
.
Elihu: “You all are old, and I am young;
and that’s why I must speak.
The answer’s on the tip of my tongue;
the one that you all seek.
.
God is so good, so kind, so just,
that if He held His breath,
All mankind would turn back to dust,
and all deserve their death.
.
He made the world so perfect,
so that life might never end.
But now there’s every defect
because evil entered in.”
.
Narrator As if to punctuate these words,
and give them physical form,
an answer in the voice of the Lord
called to Job from a great storm:
.
The Lord: “Who questions what is clearly true
with dark words that can’t see?
Brace yourself, man; I’ll question you
— and you shall answer me!
.
“Where were you when I made the earth
and measured out the land?
Who made the stars all sing in mirth?
Tell me, if you understand!
.
“Who shut the sea behind its doors,
and gave it clouds to wear?
Have you walked on the ocean floors?
Or stirred the winds of the air?
.
“Who sounds the thunder, spreads the dew,
reserves the hail for strife?
Would you accuse me of wronging you?
The One who gave you life?”
.
Narrator: Then Job replied to his great Lord:
Job: “I know You can do all;
You asked, who questions with dark words?
Before You now I fall.
.
“Before, my ears had heard of You,
but now my eyes can see.
I must repent; I know it’s true:
You’ve given so much to me.”
.
Narrator: The Lord commanded Job’s three friends
to sacrifice and pray
because they had to make amends
for what they’d had to say.
.
Then doubly blessed was this man Job
with twenty-two thousand beasts,
three prettiest daughters on the globe,
and seven sons to host their feasts.
.
Of Satan, no more words are said
in this book — but I feel
he takes all his licks in the head
and barely strikes the heel.

One of the joys of moving every decade or so is packing old files and rediscovering something you have written and almost forgotten and written off as lost. This is one of those items. I think it’d be fun to see it produced sometime. If you do so, please post a YouTube and send me the URL!

Changes

I haven’t blogged recently as much as I normally do. It’s been a challenge to keep up with posting/queuing up the almost-20 articles and reviews and interviews submitted for this month’s New Wineskins edition, “Why I Left / Why I Stay.”

And changes have been taking place in the Brenton household. Not all of them are for public consumption, but this one certainly is:

http://news-prod.wcu.edu/2012/05/angela-brenton-appointed-wcus-new-provost/

My wife, Angela Laird Brenton, has been appointed the new provost at Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, North Carolina. Her position begins August 1.

So early next week, our house goes on the market. And this weekend, we’re de-personalizing it — taking down the family pictures and packing away the collectible tchotchkes to give it that “Why, I’m ready for you to live in me!” HGTV-look. In fact, we’re already starting to pare down and pack generally.

We’ll make a trip, hopefully in June, to go house-hunting in the hills of western North Carolina.

I don’t know what I’ll be doing there, but I have a strong feeling that — given what I’ve been doing this weekend — I’ll be doing a lot of unpacking.

Your prayers and good wishes are always welcome.

God in Motion

“The one, simple theological take-away that I want you to get from this is: God is still moving.”

It’s three in the morning, and that is the phrase that I just now awakened with in my head. I’ve just been dreaming that I’ve been blogging. I can’t remember ever having done that before. I also can’t remember what I was writing in the context of the dream, but I know I won’t be able to get back to sleep until I can put this restless thought to rest.

“By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.” ~ Genesis 2:2

No. It doesn’t stop there. He is no Deist God who created everything and then took eternity off. There’s another verse right after it:

“Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.” ~ Genesis 2:3

He rested one day and He rested specifically from one thing: “from all the work of creating that he had done.”

“Then the angel of God, who had been traveling in front of Israel’s army, withdrew and went behind them. The pillar of cloud also moved from in front and stood behind them …” ~ Exodus 14:19

“For the LORD your God moves about in your camp to protect you and to deliver your enemies to you. Your camp must be holy, so that he will not see among you anything indecent and turn away from you.” ~ Deuteronomy 23:14

He moved to create. He moved to destroy evil, immersing it in flood. He moved with Abram to Canaan, with Joseph to Egypt, to the wilderness with Moses and all of Israel. Whether as a smoking censer, a prophetic dream, a burning bush, or a pillar of cloud/fire … He moved with His people, leading them from the fore and protecting them from the rear.

He moved with them for generations as they moved into the land promised them and spread themselves upon it. He moved away from them when they moved away from Him just as He had warned.

He moved into a zygote and moved to grow and lived among them in the person of His Son Jesus, teaching and moving restlessly about Israel, Samaria and Judah with good news that His salvation had returned. He moved until pinioned to a cross and death stopped His movement cold.

For a day. Two days. Three days.

Then He moved within those who had followed Him, moved His Spirit within them, moved with the good news throughout Asia Minor, Greece, Rome, Spain … throughout the world. He promised He would be with them until the end, helping them move the hearts of men and moving mountains of sin into the depths of the sea and destroying evil by immersing it in the flood of His own blood.

Unless you can somehow prove that the end has come, then He is still moving.

The One who set in motion all creation, who choreographs the stars and planets in their nightly dance, who stills the sun for a day then moves it on, is moving still to lead His people from the fore and protect them from evil from the rear.

Not just on Sunday, but every day. Not just during the day, but while you sleep at night, in every part of the world and universe, moving in the hearts of those tender toward good and love and righteousness.

He is leading to an inevitable Day when He moves among us again, as perceptible then as He is real now, not by faith but by sight.

I lift up my eyes to the mountains—
where does my help come from?
My help comes from the Lord,
the Maker of heaven and earth.

He will not let your foot slip—
he who watches over you will not slumber;
indeed, he who watches over Israel
will neither slumber nor sleep.

The Lord watches over you—
the Lord is your shade at your right hand;
the sun will not harm you by day,
nor the moon by night.

The Lord will keep you from all harm —
he will watch over your life;
the Lord will watch over your coming and going
both now and forevermore. ~ Psalm 121

God does not slumber nor sleep.

But I would like to now.

So the one, simple theological take-away that I want you to get from this is: God is still moving.

Romans and Those Who Haven’t Heard

It is my opinion that what Calvinists, Arminians, Universalists and virtually all other believers in Christ have some beliefs in common beyond a simple faith in Jesus as the Son of God — whether they want to admit it or not. And some of those beliefs aren’t necessarily good.

First, most of us believers have in common a kind of absolutist definition of the word “all” wherever it is used in scripture with regard to people — that it always means “everyone who has ever lived from the beginning of time through and including everyone who is still alive at the end of time.”

I can’t say that I buy into that. If I say “Singing at church Sunday was awesome,” and you ask me “Why?” and I reply “Because everyone sang,” you don’t assume that I meant “everyone who has ever lived through everyone who ever will.” When Genesis 6:5 says everyone was perpetually evil all the time, did that include Noah? His family?

Second, I think most believers share in an absolutist definition of “wickedness” in Romans which includes any sin, any number of sins, the nature of anyone who is not perfect and sinless. In other words, imperfection = wickedness. All sin is the same. Anyone who sins is damned.

I can’t say that I buy into that, either. Paul defines what he means by wickedness early on in Romans, and it’s pretty heinous. It’s not just slipping once in your life and saying “oh crap” instead of “oh doo-doo.”

Go ahead and read Romans 1:18-32. I’ll wait.

Now I ask you: Is that talking about people whose minds wander a bit during communion or who clap while singing praise to God in church or who let fly an epithet in an unguarded moment once in a while?

Or is it talking about sin, seriously depraved, self-seeking, God-denying, hateful, greedy, lascivious, murderous sin? Is that the way everyone is who sins? Or is that what a little sin leads to, and why it cannot be tolerated, and why it cannot be a part of God’s assembled saints? Is the wrath of God being revealed from heaven against people who aren’t perfect — or people who suppress the truth by their wickedness? Does Jesus’ statement in Luke 12:47-48 have any relevance here? (I don’t know for certain if He was speaking of eternal judgment there, but He certainly seems to support the principle that there are some sins that are worse than others.)

Third, most believers don’t believe what Paul says in places like Romans 2:6-11 (and many other scriptures) unless they get to add their own qualifications to what’s said. For them, “doing good” must include obeying God the way they define it. Otherwise, it’s not good enough. Even those of us who understand that our works don’t and can’t save us.

In the epistle to the Romans, it takes some discernment to figure out where Paul really is talking about everyone and about universal (not Universalist!) principles … and where he is talking just about people who have had some exposure to the notion of God … and where he is talking about people who grew up knowing all there was to know about God. And it’s important! Because the things said about one group of people may not apply to another group of people.

It takes some discernment to plot out where he begins talking to Jews only … and where, much later on in the epistle, he addresses Gentiles only … and where, still later on, he’s talking to everyone again. Not as much, but some. Plus, he’s writing  — obviously! — to people that have heard a gospel and have heard that Paul has a gospel and accusations against both Paul and his gospel. And that’s important to know, too. Because the things said to one group of people may not apply to another group of people. Right?

It takes some discernment to figure out whether Paul means that imperfection is the same as wickedness … if someone can actually be good and do good without hearing the name of God, having intuited His existence and goodness from what has been made, yet without having descended into the wickedness of idolatry and worship of self … if someone can actually be good and do good having heard and understood the will of God but having willfully rejected it in order pursue whatever gratifies self, at whatever cost to others and to God.

I’m not going to pretend that I have it all sorted out and there is a simple color-coded systemological map that you can overlay the epistle with and have it all neatly figured out. But I’m smart enough to pick up on the fact that Romans is not a one-size-fits-all letter with the same thing to say in every verse to and about everyone in Rome, or just every believer in Rome. Or to every Jew and Gentile who has encountered it since it was written.

The can’t-wait-to-get-to-it message of Romans — after that quick overview of global morality and immorality in chapter one — is “Stop judging each other! You have no right to! You’re doing the same wrong things that you’re judging others for doing when you judge them — you’re sinning!”

Yes, I’m especially sensitive to this theme after studying Greg Boyd’s Repenting of Religion for several months with my LIFE group. Boyd’s examination of Bonhoeffer and scripture is pretty convicting about the original sin — judging God to be untrustworthy — and expressing virtually all other sins as failures of human judgment. That’s pretty much borne out in Romans, especially as chapter two begins:

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance? ~ Romans 2:1-4

This is the kind of judgment that comes from self-righteousness … the inability to see the plank in one’s own eye while trying to pluck the splinter from another’s. It’s the kind of judgment that a Pharisee or teacher of the law uses to justify crucifying an inconvenient prophet from Nazareth.

So far, in this epistle addressed to “all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people,” there has been no change of address. He’s talking to everyone, about all of them to whom he’s writing. They’ve all been guilty of this kind of judgment. Jews. Gentiles. Everyone. And yet they are people whose “faith is being reported all over the world” (Romans 1:8). He continues:

But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.~ Romans 2:5-11

So there are people who have persisted in doing good … as well as those who have been self-seeking and follow evil. The standard of judgment is the same for Jew and Gentile.

When it says “God does not show favoritism,” does it say that He just going to save everyone because He doesn’t play favorites? No.

When it says “God does not show favoritism,” does it say that He will just condemn everyone who hasn’t heard because they have rejected truth they’ve never heard even though they might (or might not!) have persisted in doing good? No.

It says He doesn’t play favorites in saving Jews over Gentiles. That’s pretty much the point of the whole epistle, and why there should be no racial judgment taking place between the two groups!

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. ~ Romans 2:12-16

So it is possible for people who have not heard the law to still do things required by the law that are written on their hearts. We know from this epistle that keeping works of the law does not save. But the Gentiles described in this passage would have been described in scripture as “God-fearing” before the crucifixion and resurrection. Would they have been saved before those events, yet damned after?

Can we read that passage and still believe it is not possible for someone who has not heard of Jesus to live good lives, lives repentant of living for self, lives that express belief in love for others (and God is love)? That they cannot have belief in a good creator God who has put in their hearts a moral compass and a yearning for more than this life? Can we absolutely state that God cannot or will not impute the saving blood of Christ to those whom He wills, those who please Him by lives that give Him glory whether they have ever heard His name or not?

Paul understands that it’s impossible to believe on a name that one has not heard:

As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? ~ Romans 10:11-14

Does he — in this epistle or any other scripture — ever say that it is impossible for them to receive God’s salvation? Does any writer of scripture?

Scripture says we are not under law, but under grace (Romans 6:14-15) and saved by faith, not works (Romans 3:27-28; 9:32; Galatians 2:16; 5:4; John 5:24). It also says all will be judged (not saved, but judged) by their works (Matthew 25; Revelation 20:12) and words (James 3:1, Matthew 12:37)  — and in the way that we have judged others (Matthew 7:1-2; Luke 6:37).

The only exceptions I have been able to find to those being judged are those who do not judge and do not condemn and who forgive others and those who hear and believe :

“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.” ~ Luke 6:37

“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.” ~ John 5:24

Are we ready to make a judgment that only one or the other of these is required? Just one and not the other? Both?

Have we as believers done one but not the other?

And aren’t we judging those who haven’t heard when we interpret scripture to say that God cannot, will not, and/or does not save them at His own discretion — when scripture does not say so? That they don’t rate an individual judgment like those who have heard and are just categorically out-of-luck? Damned automatically by chance of birth?

Don’t get me wrong: the gospel is still — and has been since Jesus lived it — the way God wants for His power to save to be shared with all; with everyone, everywhere, in every era.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.” ~ Romans 1:16-17

Those who hear and believe; who will repent and conform their lives to Christ have a promise of salvation and advantage that those who heard do not have. At the same time, I feel completely inadequate — and forbidden — to judge the life of someone else who has not had that advantage and say that their faith is inadequate because they don’t know the Name.

And I think it extremely presumptuous to say that God does not have the power, the right, the sovereignty, the love that covers sins, the grace that triumphs over judgment, to show mercy to whom He will show mercy and compassion to whom He will have compassion … to say that He is somehow contractually obligated by the way most believers have historically interpreted Romans and other scriptures to categorically condemn everyone who has not heard, understood and accepted the gospel of His Son Jesus, the Christ.

We don’t believe that’s necessarily true of categories within it like babies and small children, mentally challenged people, or those among His people who lived before the Word took human form in Jesus.

We tend to believe — want to believe — that God can impute the grace bought by His Son’s blood to those exceptions, though we have no scriptural basis for that belief.

What does it say about us that we somehow want to believe that He cannot or will not save good people who have diligently sought Him but never had the opportunity to hear His name or His story?

I believe that is our double standard, not His.

I believe it’s our error that this kind of final judgment is ours to make, before the Day when He decides.

Not that He will save all whoever lived. There are those who are mortal who have chosen to defy, oppose and blaspheme all that is good and all that is of God, just as surely as there were those who were celestial beings who so chose. Their reward is just. My pity for them has no salvific power. My conviction that God’s heart also breaks for each one cannot redeem them. They must choose and they have chosen. What they have chosen will not prevent me from loving and trying to reach as many of them as I encounter.

Because the promise always beats the possibility of a relationship with God.

I believe God created this world and us to offer us choice and then to respect our choices.

We can choose good or evil, righteousness or sin, God or Satan, salvation or damnation … love or judgment.

I am doing my best to choose to love and not to judge …

… for the reasons outlined above.

I Will Still Shave

Monday, I return to the ranks of telecommuters. I’ll be working at home again, concentrating on updating and putting the Web site of my home church into the best possible condition — hopefully, upgrading its Joomla operating system from antiquated version 1.2 to something a little more contemporary.

I’ll come back in to the church office on Tuesdays for staff meeting and to pick up changes for the online church directory and chat with ministry leaders about items that need to go on their Web sites.

I say “return” because I’ve done this before. After we moved back to Little Rock from Abilene, I continued to work as the Content Manager for the Abilene Reporter-News from 2001 through 2003. I retrieved content from the newspaper pages’ pasteup files through a Virtual Private Network connection and reformatted them to post on the Web site. So I’m used to working at home.

I had a personal standard that I tried to keep then and will try to keep now: I will still shave. I will still wear cologne. I will not work in my pajamas.

Or anyone else’s.

The Ideal | The Reality

The Ideal:
“Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” ~ Matthew 5:48

The Reality:
“… for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God ….” ~ Romans 3:23

The Ideal:
“The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” ~ 2 Peter 3:9

The Reality:
“… Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” ~ Matthew 7:22-23

There is no point in mistaking the ideal for the reality (or vice-versa) in scripture. The Lord has expectations of us, but they are not unreasonable. He was a perfect example; God decided that we needed and deserved that, and that only a perfect Sacrifice would prove worthy. But there is no indication in scripture that perfection is expected of us.

Instead, the perfection of Christ covers our imperfections.

The Ideal and the Reality:
“But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.” ~ Isaiah 53:5

“My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” ~ 1 John 2:1-2

If God had expected perfection from us, expected nothing else, foresaw nothing else … there would have been no need for “… the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.” ~ Revelation 13:8.

Perfection should be our goal; we should aim no lower. We should yearn to be like Christ; to learn obedience as He did (Hebrews 5:8-9). He should be our Ideal.

But we should also have a sense of reality. We will not be perfect. We will need His perfection between ourselves and God, the vindication of His good and righteous will for us.

It is not what we do that saves us, but what He has done.

It is not by what He has done that we will be judged, but by what we say (Luke 19:22) and do (Matthew 25:31-46) that testifies each moment to our belief in what He has done.

That is how the world will judge us: by what we say and by what we do. That is how the world will judge Him through us.

And that is how the world will be judged by Him.

This Post Is Missing

I don’t take down a post very often, and never without prayerful consideration.

But I don’t blog in order to tick people off. Provoke people to think, sure. But not to just be ornery.

I’m afraid I may have come off that way, through my inability to communicate or unclarity of thought or even the possibility that I am flat-out wrong.

I appreciate the willingness of Nick Gill and Jennifer Thweatt-Bates (their blogs are linked to the right) to contact me via Facebook and cause me to reconsider. That’s what good friends do!

So this post may or may not reappear after reconsideration and rephrasing.

If not, you didn’t miss nuthin.’

Postscript: After reconsideration and rephrasing, the modified post has been re-posted and should appear below this one on the chronologically-listed pages.

Jesus Hung Out With Hookers?

Maybe. Maybe not. But as far as scripture revealing that as established fact — I don’t think so. I haven’t found any scripture that specifically puts Him in the vicinity of one.

It’s just that we’ve heard this phrase so much that we’ve tended to accept it as fact, and it might not be. (People tend to do that with things they’ve heard over and over.)

In Matthew 25:6-13 and in Mark 14:1-11, Jesus is dining at the home of Simon the Leper (presumably cured, but there is no record of it) at his invitation when a woman anoints Him with expensive perfume. No slur is made on her character sexually; the charge against her is that she wasted the perfume, which Jesus refutes. In a similar record in Luke 7:36-50 (where the host is identified as a Pharisee, also named Simon), and all that he says to himself is “If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner” (v.39). Jesus agrees that her sins are many, but that “her many sins have been forgiven” (v. 47b). Nothing is said about the nature of these sins. John 11:8 identifies her as Mary, one of the sisters of Lazarus; and chapter 12 relates the story with no comment on her character or sins.

The Samaritan woman He meets near Sychar at Jacob’s well in John 4 has been married five times and is living with someone she is not married to (vs. 17-18). Jesus, who has intuited this, says nothing about her asking for or receiving money for sexual services. It’s possible, but He seems to be very discreet in the way He phrases this revelation. (Almost as if He is not judging her, one might conclude.)

A woman who touches His garment in Luke 8:40-48 has a bleeding disease that undoubtedly troubles her reproductive system, but no inference can be drawn about its nature or source — certainly nothing that requires it to have resulted from illicit sexual activity.

The woman who begs Jesus to heal her daughter is simply described as foreign in Mark 7:24-30.

Finally, in the disputed passage beginning John 8, a woman about to be stoned or spared at Jesus’ word is described simply as “caught in the act of adultery.” Again, no exchange of currency for service is mentioned or implied.

If there are other instances of contact between Jesus and women of tarnished reputation, I’d still need to be convinced that the label “hooker” is deserved. If they didn’t sell themselves, they weren’t prostitutes. If we’re going to be pejorative, then the accurate term would be “sluts.” Is there really a need to be pejorative? We don’t pick on other sins like this one and say “Jesus hung out with pimps” or “Jesus hung out with child molesters” or “Jesus hung out with tax cheats” or “Jesus hung out with slanderers” in the absence of any scriptural evidence for it.

We know Jesus hung out with a tax collector/collaborator, a member of a revolutionary sect, a boatful of fishermen, and a traitor who became an accomplice to His murder. He dined at the homes of Pharisees as well as tax collector/collaborators and ate out with thousands at a time, even providing the food. He went to a wedding once where way too much wine was served, and He was the reason for it.

People of all sorts sought company with Jesus. They were all sinners. That was the big accusation of the Pharisees and teachers of the law in Luke 15:2: “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.” (As if they weren’t sinners themselves … just as we are.) And they were right. However, there’s rarely any indication that Jesus actively sought these contacts — or that He shied away from them, judged, or failed to engage them as people loved by God. Point is, He was Jesus. He didn’t have to. They came looking for Him.

So I’d advise caution about repeating the phrase in the title or anything substantially similar to it as historical fact. It’s not strictly biblical. While it may convey Jesus’ loving nature and willingness to reach out to (and associate with) all of us who sin, it’s really not accurate to infer from scripture or imply to others that Jesus frequented dens of iniquity while His sandaled feet traveled Israel, Galilee, Samaria and the environs.

Would Jesus hang out with hookers — or any other kind of sinner one might care to single out — then or now? Without a doubt!

In fact, He does so almost all the time. His Holy Spirit within the lives of His servants reaches out in ministries to the homeless, the hungry, the incarcerated, the addicted, the poor, the rich, the self-righteous and the self-doubting. He is in His servants and they are in Him, doing the work God has prepared for them to do.

Jesus began it. We are to continue it. That’s what matters.

The Math

Let’s do the math.

Jesus surrounded Himself with twelve called-out disciples for special training and ministry; we call them apostles. He trained them and sent them out over a period of, as nearly as we can tell, about three years.

One of the eleven turned on his Master and turned Him in. That left eleven.

What would have happened if each of those eleven, after that three-year period culminating in His death and resurrection, had done the same? Selected twelve people and trained them for three years?

And what if only two out of those twelve had remained followers who would do the same? And at the end of each three-year training period, there were no deaths or losses due to persecution?

Well, in the first three years, you would have 22 new mentors in addition to the original eleven; a total of 33.

At the end of six years, you’d have 99. Nine years? 297. Twelve years: 891. Okay, it’s a slow start compared to Pentecost and 3,000 in one day — but special circumstances intervened there.

What about 18 years? 2,673. And you’re almost up to that 3,000.

Twenty-one years: 8,019. Remember, these are not just baptized believers worshiping and sharing together, but discipling.

Twenty-four years: 24,057. Twenty-seven: 72,171. Thirty: 216,513. Thirty-three: 649,539. Thirty-six: 1,948,617.

That’s a long time, but we’re nearly up to two million in the lifetime of a fairly long-lived adult person.

So let’s drop out the original trainers from now on, and just double the number of believers every three years.

By the thirty-ninth year, there would be 3,897,234 mentors ready for the next generation of 7,794,468 disciples ready to train others after 42 years. With the success rate holding steady, by the forty-fifth year, 15,588,936 mentors.

More than 30 million in 48 years. Sixty-two million in 51 years. One hundred twenty-four million in 54 years. Almost a quarter of a billion in 57 years. A half-billion in 60 years. A billion in 63.

Keep going, and in 72 years, the equivalent of the entire current population of earth could have been reached and discipled.

And in less than a hundred years, the number would be larger than all the souls who are estimated to have ever lived.

Oh, yes; I understand that there are factors that would affect that outcome: travel limitations, disease, war, overlapping of available potential disciples (but the 2-out-of-12 odds might also have improved with more than one witness to each group of twelve, had they seen dedicated mentors persisting year after year with Christ-like lives and will to teach).

Not every mentor would have 24/7 available to do nothing but travel and teach disciples; there are jobs to do and income to earn.

Obviously, things didn’t turn out that way. This is just a math exercise. And math was never my strong suit.

But what if we tried Jesus’ way of doing things?

Just for a generation.

The Incredible Free Giveaway Offer

No, my blog has not been hacked and taken over by some seamy cheat hacker trying to pry bucks from your gullible or not-so-gullible grasp. This is just a little story I made up. So indulge me.

A creative entity known as Apple decided to make known an incredible free giveaway offer of iPads and gave away an almost immeasurable quantity of iPads to all the people who heard about the free offer and responded. The hope was that the iPads would serve as a resource for people to “think different,” create good stuff, and generally make the world a better place.

Surprisingly, word did not spread as widely as Apple might have anticipated, and Apple decided to just give away iPads where the offer was not made known.  After all, Apple had always been the sole source of iPads, and it was within Apple’s purview to distribute iPads at pleasure. Apple found all kinds of people who wanted to “think different,” to create good stuff, and to generally make the world a better place. So Apple gave iPads to them, too.

Now the first group of people, who received their iPads because the offer had been made known to them, felt it was unfair to be giving away iPads to people who had not heard of the offer and had not responded to it as they had. They felt it was not like Apple to give away iPads to people who had not heard about the offer, and they began telling people that Apple should not and would not give away iPads to people who did know about the offer and respond to it.

Were they right to do this?

I’m guessing that most people would say “no” to this story, and I would be one of them.

They were not the ones making the decision. They were not part of the decision-making process about making an offer or giving away iPads. They did not word the agreement of the offer. They were beneficiaries of the process. They lost nothing; they still had their iPads. The wonder is that they largely kept the information about the offer to themselves.

You see, the people who responded to the offer were given a promise, then they received the gift. The second group of people just received the gift.

Now do me a favor. Put your cursor at the beginning of the story, sweep it and copy it and paste it into a text document app, and do a search-and-replace. Replace “Apple” with “God” and “iPads” with “salvation.”

Oh, let me just do it for you:

A creative entity known as God decided to make known an incredible free offer of salvation and gave away an almost immeasurable quantity of salvation to all the people who heard about the free offer and responded. The hope was that the salvation would serve as a resource for people to “think different,” create good stuff, and generally make the world a better place.

Surprisingly, word did not spread as widely as God might have anticipated, and God decided to just give away salvation where the offer was not made known.  After all, God had always been the sole source of salvation, and it was within God’s purview to distribute salvation at pleasure. God found all kinds of people who wanted to “think different,” to create good stuff, and to generally make the world a better place. So God gave salvation to them, too.

Now the first group of people, who received their salvation because the offer had been made known to them, felt it was unfair to be giving away salvation to people who had not heard of the offer and had not responded to it as they had. They felt it was not like God to give away salvation to people who had not heard about the offer, and they began telling people that God should not and would not give away salvation to people who did know about the offer and respond to it.

I don’t know about you, but I would still say that the people in the first group were not right to draw this conclusion and make this pronouncement.

For all the same reasons.

If you can find a scripture that says God gives up His sovereignty to show mercy and favor to whomever He wills because of His contractual obligation to those of us who have heard the offer and responded to it, I’d like to see it.

I understand that He is a just God and that we are imperfect people and that believers have an advantage in living saved lives and making the world a better place, but I am not aware that our ongoing imperfections are less egregious to God. I haven’t read anything in scripture that says we stop sinning after we believe and respond or that our sin becomes less sinful.

In fact, don’t the people who live that kind of lives that believers should be living put us to shame for having the law of love written on their hearts yet having never encountered the free offer of salvation made by God through His Son, Jesus, the Christ?

If we are going to picture God as only just and not merciful — having somehow exhausted His mercy at Calvary as if it were a finite quantity — then we truly picture ourselves as children of a lesser god.

And if we keep the information about that offer to ourselves, when others could benefit from it here and now and gladly join in the telling, well then … what does that say about us?

Now, the qualifier. I said nothing about God giving this incredible free offer to everyone, but to everyone whom He wishes to give it.  It is within His power enacted by Christ’s blood to save everyone. It is not within His nature. Clearly, we have much information in scripture that indicates He will judge and there will be those who will reject Him and His offer and face consequences that have no reprieve.

But you have to know someone to either receive or reject them. You have to be aware of an offer in order to accept it or turn it down. You have to have knowledge of a promise in order to believe or disbelieve it.

At the same time, you can reject everything that a person stands for without knowing them, or even knowing that they exist.

Anyone can accept a gift. If a life is lived which displays the acceptance of that gift, will God ultimately deny it to someone living it yet who has never heard the Name of the Giver?